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The following is a letter sent to Dr. Whitney in December.
To date we have received no response.
Dr. E. Dow Whitney
University of Florida
Department of Materials Science and Engineering
165 Rhines Hall
Gainsville, FL 326112066
11 December 1999
Dr. Whitney:
We are writing you in reference to your November 1990 publication entitled
A Study of Marcite (Plaster) Deterioration in Swimming Pools,
which has been distributed to the pool industry in draft form.
The swimming pool plaster (marcite) phenomenon referred to as spot
etching has continued to plague our industry since the release of
your study. As part of an ongoing effort to identify the cause of this elusive
defect, many references have been made to your study. However, we have a
number of questions relative to the study, which we hope you can clarify
for us.
Definition
Part of the confusion about spot etching exists because of a lack of distinction
by some between common, general etching and the specific phenomenon of spot
etching. General etching refers to a uniform roughness of the entire surface
of a plaster, caused by a removal of cement paste, thus exposing rough edges
of aggregate. Spot etching refers to round spots, usually 1/4 to 1/2 inch
in diameter, with intact or smooth plaster surrounding the spots. Aggregate
present in the spotted areas are smooth to the touch indeed, spot
etched plaster cannot be identified by touch alone. A possible third condition
may be included, in that with some spotpatterned occurrences the claim
is that an actual recessed pit is developed, in which the plaster becomes
very soft (the word putty is used...) and aggregate falls out
of the pit. For lack of a uniform term, perhaps we can refer to this type
as soft spot pitting. The last paragraph of page 3 (continuing to page 4)
in your study indicates that you are aware of the spot patterning that has
plagued the industry. We are familiar with aggressive deterioration of plaster,
and study on your part relative to such general etching may be interesting
but does not explain the spot etching phenomenon. A definition of spot etching
must, by nature, include a rationale of why certain defined spots manifest
the effect, when the rest (usually the majority) of the plaster does not.
Although page 3 of your study indicates an understanding of this difference,
none of the conclusions seem to differentiate between general etching and
spot etching, or explain why spots happen rather than general. Indeed, in
your Concrete International article (Etching, Mottling, and Staining
in Plaster Coated Concrete Swimming Pools, by Cal Eden and E. Dow
Whitney, September 1990, pages 31 and 32) you present a definition of etching
that describes both general and spot patterns, but photographs of plaster
that are only of the general pattern, sequentially described as severely
etched, heavy etching, and severe etching.
Again although this study does define spot etching, it does not explain
the spotting phenomenon.
Question #1 Would you please comment on whether or not your lab study
and/or your examinations of field plaster samples specifically relate to
spot etching, as opposed to general plaster etching or deterioration?
Plaster Chemistry
Another problem with the study is that it is based on fundamental misunderstandings
relative to cement chemistry as it applies to the pool environment. One
example of this flaw is a misunderstanding of the source of plaster dust.
On pages 31 and 32 of your study the plaster dust topic is addressed. The
statement is made that adding basic water to a pool will convert bicarbonate
ion to carbonate ion. This process is said to be the source of plaster
dust in swimming pools. It is specifically noted that none of the
plaster dust in new plaster pools comes from the cement itself. However
many, if not most in the industry would disagree with this statement. Conventional
wisdom is that calcium hydroxide is a normal reaction product of hydrating
cement, and it is a portion of this hydroxide product that is released into
the pool water and forms a calcium carbonate precipitate in most pools by
reacting with bicarbonate in the pool water.
Question #2 In light of your departure from normally accepted theory
relative to plaster dust formation, would you please comment on your theory?
References
Crucial material that is extensively quoted without reference in this study
previously appeared in other work dating to the early 1970s. Specifically,
the following paragraphs have appeared elsewhere previously, virtually verbatim:
Page 28 Section 5.1 1st sentence
Page 29 Section 5.1 Last sentence of 1st paragraph and entire final paragraph
Page 2931 Section 5.2 The entire page and a half of Section 5.2 except
for the first sentence (with a few very minor wording or formulaic alterations)
Page 3132 Section 5.3 Last paragraph under formula (5), Formulas (6)
and (7), and the
following 2 sentences
Among other things, the questioned description of plaster dust formation
appears in this earlier document.
Question #3 Would you comment on the source of these unreferenced
passages?
Calcium Hydroxide and the Surface of Pool Plaster
In your study the presence of calcium hydroxide in swimming pool plaster
is repeatedly affirmed. However, although calcium hydroxide is a normal
phase of cement, it is our experience, based on an understanding of the
pool environment, and reinforced by the analysis of various cured pool plaster
samples, that calcium hydroxide is not a significant component of the top
few millimeters of cured pool plaster. Once the majority of the curing is
complete (ca. 23 weeks after filling with water), hydroxide on the
surface has either been converted chemically to carbonates or other more
durable compounds in the bulk cement paste, or solubilized in the pool water.
Indeed, water balanced in the bicarbonate range (i.e., <8.3) should immediately
perform this chemical reaction with hydroxide present in any portion of
the plaster which has contact with the water. It is normal, however, to
see expected amounts of hydroxide in the interior (i.e., deeper than a few
millimeters) portion of the bulk cement paste.
On pages 1416 of your study, it is reported that a calcium hydroxide
phase was present in nonetched portions of pool plaster samples. This
determination is reported to have been made via Xray diffraction.
Unfortunately, none of the actual documentation pictures, Xray
diffraction analysis, SEM scans, or even comprehensive descriptions are
given. It is therefore impossible to verify the claims made in the report.
Figure 3 on page 21 is used to show that, according to EDS profiling, the
percentage of the surface composed of calcium decrease from about 94.5%
in nonetched areas to about 84.5% in etched areas. However, this data
does not seem to differentiate between specific phases of calcium. Our analysis
of similar samples has led us to believe that a hydroxide phase usually
would not exist in either the etched or nonetched areas of spot etched
plaster.
Question #4 Would you please confirm and explain the presence of
calcium hydroxide on the surface of underwatercured plaster?
Question #5 Would you please make available to us and the rest of
the industry the scans, graphs, pictures, and descriptions which must have
been generated as part of this study?
The Effects of Trowelling
We are unclear on what your ideas might be relative to the significance
of trowelling. Although the coupon study did not examine trowelled, but
rather moldformed plaster, this section seems to indicate that you
feel excess trowelling, or the bringing to the surface of excess calcium
hydroxide is detrimental.
Question #6 Was your intent to implicate excess trowelling which
forces aggregate lower into the body of the plaster coating, thus creating
a layer that is almost entirely cement paste? Do you have reason to believe
that this process is directly related to spot etching?
The Lab Experiment
A centerpiece of your study seems to be the lab experiment wherein special
coupons were exposed to a specific water, and weight analysis was reportedly
performed. We have used your description of the experiment to recreate it,
resulting in many questions and dissimilar conclusions. Would you please
help clear up the following questions?
Question #7 In order to create plaster coupons of the same composition
as yours, we had difficulty ascertaining the ratio of cement to aggregate
in the coupons. Indeed, since the description of the other components is
specific, but an aggregate component is not described, it seems that your
coupons were cement paste only. Was this the case? If so, why? The plaster
surface to submersion water volume ratio, the circulation rate, etc. were
all designed to mimic the pool environment, yet the actual product tested
seems to have been a cement paste instead of pool plaster...
Question #8 Your method of evaluation was weight, but no weight loss
data is given. In our experience, the coupons actually increased in weight
for a time as water was incorporated into the curing/hydrating material.
On pages 2426 of your report graphs are given which record activity,
not by weight, but by % reacted times 103 . Would you share
the actual weight data, as well as a description of how the % reacted
times 103 correlates with that weight change? Also, was the calcium
content of the submersion water determined at the end of the testing period,
and if so was all calcium carbonate precipitate first dissolved? What were
the results?
Question #9 What determinations were made to suggest that formed
plaster surfaces react in a significantly similar manner as trowelled surfaces?
Question #10 Why do we have no definitive statement on whether the
coupons spot etched, since the report includes a definitive definition of
spot etching? Where are descriptions or photographs to substantiate the
inference that they did? When we perform this experiment (with either aggregatecontaining
or aggregate free coupons), the coupons always etch evenly over the entire
coupon, and never in a spot pattern.
Question #11 What is the percent reacted (x103) of coupons
in balanced water? In other words, what is the control value,
the expected amount of calcium loss?
Question #12 Why does the study infer that balancing the pH, alkalinity,
and calcium levels of pool water are sufficient to protect the plaster from
deterioration? Dont the negative Gibbs free energy exchange values
presented for calcium hydroxide predict that any water with a pH below 13
is, to varying degrees, aggressive to the calcium hydroxide in plaster?
Question #13 Why does the study repeatedly refer to the pH range
of 1010.5 as the natural pH of a water solution exposed
to plaster? Isnt it because any water with a pH <13 in a plaster
vessel will either convert calcium hydroxide to calcium carbonate in the
bulk plaster, or else dissolve calcium hydroxide into calcium bicarbonate
in the water, thus raising the waters pH, and that the only way to
stop this is not pool industrydefined water balance, but rather the
maintenance of pH in the pool greater than 13?
Question #14 What is actually your understanding of the term preferentially
leached when referring to calcium hydroxide being removed from a plaster
surface? It is mentioned in the report that calcium hydroxide comprises
about 25% by weight of the plaster, and it can be assumed that the
distribution of this calcium is relatively uniform throughout the surface
after trowelling. No inference seems to be made in the study that calcium
hydroxide is concentrated in round spots of the plaster surface, and that
as a result any leaching of calcium hydroxide from the plaster comes only
from these spots. However, no other explanation is given as to why a preferential
leaching occurs on localized spots, rather than uniformly across a surface
which should be subject to relatively uniform water chemistry. Is there
therefore an impression that some spots are constitutionally more susceptible
to etching?
Question #15 Why, on page 32 of the study, is there the implication
that gas chlorine is a cause of acidic water chemistry, but no such similar
references are made to trichlor, muriatic acid, sodium bisulfate, or any
other contributor to low pH? Isnt this singling out of the misapplication
of one product (i.e., gas chlorine in inadequately buffered water) and coupling
it with an unsubstantiated capability of selective solvation
from random spots of the surface inappropriate in such a scientific study?
Question #16 What was the purpose of testing coupons in water with
high concentrations of chlorine or cyanuric acid? Testing soft water (such
as in the lab experiment), or chlorine and cyanuric acid (all water chemistry
issues) without also examining any application issues (such as excessive
retempering, hard trowelling, excessive calcium chloride, insufficient mix
times, etc. etc.) gives at least the appearance of bias. At the time of
the study, there were also some who suspected that there could be a materials
contamination issue involved. Is there a reason why application and composition
issues were ignored?
In light of these questions, we feel that the conclusions made in the
study extend beyond the limits of the data, and that they should not be
given weight until you can provide meaningful answers to these questions.
We eagerly await your reply. We can be reached via the following methods:
Mail: Que Hales Phone: 5205736696
3114 E Pennsylvania St Fax: 5206251918
Tucson, AZ 85714 Email: que@poolchlor.com
Sincerely,
Kim Skinner President, Pool Chlor
Que Hales Manager, Pool Chlor of Tucson
Doug Latta President, Aqua Clear
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